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Breaking news in Mathews
County, where a couple has been

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found brutally murdered in
their New Point home.

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The bodies of 51-
and 49-year-old Adam

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and Melissa Moore were
discovered by first responders

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after they had been
violently murdered

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from multiple stab wounds.

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Police say the victim's
24-year-old son,

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who is currently at large,
is a person of interest in

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the case after investigators
found his initials,

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"JTM," written in blood on
the wall their home.

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I would kill again.

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They're dead,
I'm alive.

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I don't think
it was wrong.

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The thing inside of me is
like...

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the appetite,
it's like a wolf that's...

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feeling... hunger.

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A double homicide investigation
in Mathews County,

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police charged this man,
Jonathan Moore.

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They say he stabbed his own
parents to death,

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Adam and Melissa Moore.

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Deputies found their bodies at
their home on

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White Point Lane
on Monday.

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Police say they found Jonathan
Moore in Lynchburg yesterday

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though, after driving off
in his father's truck,

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and arrested him.

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So right out of the gate
he's wanting a lawyer

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and what does that
say about him?

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I think it goes back to that
old saying where, "A lawyer

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who represents himself has
a fool for a client."

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And I think that gives us
our first glimpse

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into who he thinks he is.

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He thinks he's much smarter
than what he actually is.

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He thinks he's much more
sophisticated than what

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he actually is.

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There is a shocking level of
grandiosity I find

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in his presentation.

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When you think about all of
the data points-- so his hand

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is lacerated and wrapped.

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We know that they found
evidence at the scene of

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the murders with his initials
in blood written on the wall.

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He's being investigated for
this, but yet has no emotional

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response to the fact that he's
been told his parents

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have been murdered.

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And he just sits there really
calmly, I think, trying to fish

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for a little information to
find out what they know,

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but also perhaps
a little uncertain of

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where he wants to go with this.

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He gets really antsy,
a little uncomfortable,

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because he wants
to share his story.

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He wants to control
the narrative here.

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He cannot sit still and let
so much time go by, because

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it's just very boring for him.

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And, you know, typical of
psychopaths is they do need

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some sort of arousal.

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They have a propensity towards
getting the attention because

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if they don't, then there's
nothing to them,

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and they're gonna, you know,
just be bored and fall apart,

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so he wants to engage them.

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He's really trying to get as
much information as he can

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from detectives
so he can plan out

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the rest of what
he's gonna tell them.

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And also, that is because
he wants to see what he can get

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down the road
in terms of sentencing,

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in terms of the punishment.

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When it comes
to his description

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of the release
and the blackout,

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he can kind of control
this narrative that

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he wants them to believe
that he's not a bad person.

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That there, again, that there
was some kind of

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unresolved trauma.

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If he had a release, it was
because he was aware

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of what he was doing.
He enjoyed what he was doing.

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Was he blacked out?

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I mean, he was blacked out
from his sense of normalcy

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and decency, but he wasn't
blacked out in what

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we think of
as being blacked out.

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Moore describes his parents
as overbearing or controlling,

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and that's very damaging
to a psychopath.

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It's undercutting their--
their emotions, their control.

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He doesn't want them around
because they really chipped

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at his ego by telling him
what to do when to do it.

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Moore is approaching
this like a quid pro quo.

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Like, you know,
I gave you something.

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I gave you a confession.
Now you give me something.

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And now he just wants to move
on to the next transaction,

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and to basically get
his own instrumental needs met.

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So that in and of itself,
by the way, is callous.

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There's clearly no remorse
for killing his parents,

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and he doesn't really
want to tell the truth.

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He's basically just saying,
"Yeah, I just told the truth

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because I want
a better outcome for my case."

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And then he takes it a step
further and unbelievably is now

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asking for concessions.

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He seems far more concerned
about the cats than he does

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his remaining family
and friends in the community.

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And that's the thing with
psychopathy is that we now

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think of psychopathy
on a continuum.

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And we know
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for example, who harm animals.

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On another side of that aspect
of psychopathy, there are

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people who actually
form bonds with animals.

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And one theory is that
they form bonds with pets

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or animals because
animals can't reject them.

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He doesn't want her
to see him in a bad way.

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And that mimics or mirrors
what he was trying to do

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with detectives.

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He's controlling
how others are seeing him.

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Again, if he's looked at
as this murderous person,

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this horrible person,
that's gonna hurt his ego.

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He doesn't want
to be seen that way.

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It's very pejorative
to psychopaths.

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He wants to be seen
as the victim here.

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He has a huge
sense of entitlement.

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He believes that he should
be getting all of the stuff

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that he wants when he wants it.

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He wasn't able to get it
from the detectives.

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He expects to get it
from his grandmother.

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And never does he ever think
about how is she feeling,

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given everything
that's going on.

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The psychopath often is so
detached from another person's

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emotional state,
it's called alexithymia,

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when you can't interpret
your emotions and you can't

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interpret the emotions
of other people.

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So I think
at this point, Moore is trying

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to spell out his motive here.

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He mentions that his parents
have been talking about a life

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insurance policy, and we know
from records from before that

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he was talking to a friend
while intoxicated about,

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you know,
killing his parents for money.

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It does fit his narrative to
kill his parents for the money.

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He still wants
what they have, which is money.

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Not emotion,
not love, but money.

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So how does he get what
he wants without having them

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in the picture?
He kills them.

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There is a high level of
narcissism that's happening.

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All he's thinking about is how
people don't want to let him

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live the life that he wants,
and he's upset about it.

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A Mathews County man
will spend 50 years behind bars

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for killing his parents.

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Jonathan Moore was convicted in
the stabbing deaths of Adam

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and Melissa Moore.
He pleaded guilty in October.


